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by tcl
Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:23 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Switch your training!
Replies: 8
Views: 5891

Re: Switch your training!

I won't pretend to guess, since I know from earlier posts what you actually did. But I will add that the summer before my freshman year in college I made the mistake of failing to adjust for my 60 hr/wk job that was entirely on my feet (plus some other commitments of about 15 hrs/wk). I felt super-m...
by tcl
Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:36 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tinman's New Running Calculator
Replies: 24
Views: 33555

Re: Tinman's New Running Calculator

Thanks, both of you. When I'm in shape I race 5K, plus the mile (when I can) and 10K (when there's no other choice). I haven't done anything fast for awhile, so 3-4 x 200 at anaerobic endurance pace, with ample rest, sounds like the way to go for now at least.
by tcl
Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:32 am
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tinman's New Running Calculator
Replies: 24
Views: 33555

Re: Tinman's New Running Calculator

Thanks, Tinman. In my opinion, stories like what you've just posted are the most useful among the many great things on this site. They provide a kind of detail and context you can't get any other way. Other posters: any thoughts on how to manage the very small part of training that's devoted to spee...
by tcl
Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:33 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tinman's New Running Calculator
Replies: 24
Views: 33555

Re: Tinman's New Running Calculator

It seems CV is a great all-purpose training pace, useful for every race distance from 800m to Marathon. Not a magic bullet, of course, but a good go-to intensity (something a guy like Ovett and a guy like Lopes might have in common). I wonder if there's a corresponding zone in the fast end of things...
by tcl
Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:40 am
Forum: "Any Talk"
Topic: Running Calculator
Replies: 5
Views: 14758

Re: Running Calculator

Not sure how much you want to reveal or how much time you want to put into it, but one way to enrich the training-pace chart could be to add a column on the right with a sample workout at each pace. Thus a 17-minute 5K runner might see 7 x 900m as a sample CV workout; whereas a 14-minute runner migh...
by tcl
Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:11 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tempo duration
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

Re: Tempo duration

Cheers, Tinman. I'll lay off the follow-up questions, then.
tcl
by tcl
Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:22 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tempo duration
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

Re: Tempo duration

Tinman, I think you introduced a hypothetical example ("Tim") and two workouts, with numeric scores for each, to illustrate how you think about the costs and benefits of two kinds of workouts. A small picture to illustrate a larger point, as it were. Since something about that small picture seemed o...
by tcl
Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:37 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tempo duration
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

Re: Tempo duration

Thank you. In the example with "Tim," you said the numbers referred to stress on his intermediate fibers, so I figured that's what we were still talking about. Perhaps that's a difference between your initial scoring system (with values of 100-plus) and the second (values in the teens and twenties) ...
by tcl
Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:31 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tempo duration
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

Re: Tempo duration

Thanks, Tinman. Does anyone else find this fascinating? Given that these seem to me, anyway, to be more or less equivalent workouts in terms of stress, it's hard to imagine why you'd ever choose anything for year-round training but marathon paced reps, striders for coordination, and perhaps some hil...
by tcl
Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:04 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tempo duration
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

Re: Tempo duration

Thank you. That's certainly counterintuitive for me, assuming that your figures are in the same order as the workouts I listed. If I compare the first and third workouts: 8 x 2:15 @ 5K pace = 18 minutes of work = 9.7 workout points 8 x 4:30 @ 20K pace = 36 minutes of work = 18.4 workout point it see...
by tcl
Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:22 am
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tempo duration
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

Re: Tempo duration

Thanks, Tinman. I look forward to your elucidation of these numbers, whenever you get the chance. In the meantime, is anyone else familiar with 1) these numbers and their meaning, or 2) the optimization of oxidative FT (IIa) stimulation in a given workout? On 1), the units appear to be different fro...
by tcl
Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:20 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tempo duration
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

Re: Tempo duration

Tinman, I suppose if I were designing the workouts I might figure something around 90 seconds recovery across the board (on the rough assumption that 4:30 @ 20K, 3:15 @ 10K, and 2:15 5K might all require similar recovery). However, my real question is whether tinkering with rep length and recovery l...
by tcl
Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:54 am
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tempo duration
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

Re: Tempo duration

I was trying to use your example of "Tim," who seems to be a 16-minute 5K runner (I'm going on the simplistic logic that 5 x 1K at his 5K pace yields 16 minutes of work). My conjecture is that if you're trying to get a similar stimulus for oxidative FT fibers with reps at 5K, CV, or HM pace, at a si...
by tcl
Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:34 am
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Tempo duration
Replies: 43
Views: 16932

Re: Tempo duration

Tinman, I wonder if you could compare these workouts: 8 x 2:15 @ 5K 8 x 3:15 @ CV (your example, given that the total amounted to 26 minutes) 8 x 4:30 @ threshold 4 x 4:30 @ threshold plus 4 x 2:15 @ 5K I realize we could dream these up endlessly, and that other variables (such as recovery time) wil...
by tcl
Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:20 pm
Forum: "Coaching & Training Talk"
Topic: Latest Running Times
Replies: 10
Views: 3429

Re: Latest Running Times

I agree, TexNav. The principles are important, but it's not that hard to gain a basic understanding of them. The tricky thing is making decisions when you have to weigh those principles against one another, and there the stories (especially if they include some mistakes) are invaluable.