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Elite siting

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:59 pm
by Tinman
At 3:12 p.m., on my way home, in a snow storm here in Beaverton, Oregon, I saw Matt Tegenkamp running eastward. He was half a mile from the Nike World Campus, which I pass every day (I live 1.5 miles from it). He had on a white colored wind breaker. Matt looks lean!  It's so easy to spot an elite runner; at 6:00 per mile pace, on snow covered sidewalks, one looks effortless; and that's what Teg was!


Re: Elite siting

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:55 pm
by TexNav
Great to know I have something in common with the elites. I was out running in the snow/rain yesterday, looking lean, and running at (about) 6:00 minute mile pace. Come to think of it though, I think that is where the similarities end though,as my pace was more like a CV pace and it certainly didnt feel effortless. Haha.

Ok, you all can boo me off of the board if you want. Just injecting a little humor into the day.

Glad you shared that Tom. I think I had told you before about a local runner here in TX, also an elite, who I see out running some. Same thing that you saw. This particular runner and I are acquaintances and when I see him out on the trails, I notice what you have noticed as well Tom, moving along at 6 min/mi pace quite effortlessly. (This guys mile PR is 3:56:?? and 1500 about 3:38). So, not too shabby though he has been taking it easy the past 2 years.

Re: Elite siting

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:06 am
by ATimmins
at 6:00 pace Teg may have not been working out.  Figuring his sub 13 performance, he may have been walking to get some milk and still clocked that pace.


Re: Elite siting

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:20 am
by running26point2

Re: Elite siting

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:05 pm
by Physeder
:D Okay, Time for some name dropping. Just got in from showing the Willis brothers (Nick and Steve) my 2.5 k loop on some trails where Nick will do a 10k Tempo run on Sunday. I asked what he will run "Oh , Around 30 mins" was the answer.
Yesterday I took, Nick and  a group out for a casual 1 hour run in our Forest. The group is one that Nick and Steve advertised for on Letsrun .. called "Kiwirun", so they are touring New Zealand. The day before that they ran sections of the famous Waiatarua run in Auckland and then had morning tea with Bill Baillie and Barry Magee.
Thsi afternoon they head over to the Coast (50 mins) and some wil participate in a track meet. Nick is going to jump into an event or two and have a run.

Re: Elite siting

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:01 pm
by ap4305
Two anecdotes....

1.  While doing an easy run yesterday I noticed a group of three Kenyan runners jogging ahead of me and I was slowly gaining on them.  I do some of my easy running slower than probably anyone so you can imagine how slow they were going (it's always funny getting passed by the 22 minute 5k-ers out to set a PR during every training run..."How do you run so slow in training and but run with all the really fast guys in races?").  They eventually did pick up the pace as they progressed, but for most Kenyans, easy means VERY easy.  It is often a good example for the rest of us to follow. 

2.  One day while my wife and I were still in school, we went to run on the XC course in a network of trails that began by the track.  We drove to the track so we could do all of the run on dirt and grass, rather than running from home on the streets.  At the track we noticed a Kenyan runner from one of the schools on the other side of town (campus was about 15 miles away).  His school didn't have a track and his team wasn't very good so he did much of his training on his own. 

We did our run and upon returning to the track noticed the Kenyan kid still hanging around, just doing some light drills and strides.  We then went over to him and said hello and congratulated him on his great season.  During our conversation we found out that he had been waiting for his ride from for about an hour, but without a cell phone there was not much he could do.  We asked if he needed a ride back to his campus, and he just nonchalantly said, "I'll just run back if my ride doesn't show up."  My wife basically said to him, "No, you're not running back there on those dangerous roads...we're driving you."  Even after a workout, he could no doubt cover the distance easily, but because there were some congested areas to traverse, it probably was not safe given the traffic. 

We often hear and talk in the abstract about the Africans using running/walking as necessary transportation but here was a real life example of a Kenyan casually saying "If I don't have motorized transportation, I'll just run...15 miles after my problem"  It's no wonder that the Africans in running, the central Europeans in cycling, and the Scandanavians and Eastern Europeans in XC skiing have a rich legacy of great performances in their sports.  These disciplines are transportation and a fundamental way of life them...not something they simply do as sport picked up later in life. 

Re: Elite siting

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:00 pm
by TexNav
Thanks, that was a good read.

Re: Elite siting

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:11 pm
by HRE
Ok, I can do this too. In the middle 80s I got to know Henry Rono passably well. He and I and two other guys spent a Saturday night together and were all going to a five mile race the next evening in western Massachusetts. I had decided I'd do my Sunday long run anyway. Henry evidently decide the same thing and left the house maybe fifteen minutes before I did. Doing what was my "normal" pace for such runs, i.e. nothing blazing, about halfway through my own run I looked ahead and there was Henry. I overtook him a few minutes later.
One of the other guys who stayed with us that night knew Henry very well and lived near him. He told me that he always hid when Henry came by looking for a training partner because Henry ran too slowly.

Re: Elite siting

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:26 am
by kudzurunner
Two years ago, as a 49 year old prof at Ole Miss, I decided to run a track 5000 in the Ole Miss Open.  This meant that I lined up with seventeen college runners, one of whom was Barnabas Kirui.  We were acquaintances of a sort; he was the sophomore star, I was the aging fanboy of sorts.  Occasionally after he'd run a great race and word of it had come over the wires, I'd see him on campus and we'd stop and chat.  Nicest guy you want to meet.  I'd see him in the woods every now and then.   

Now it was race day and I was toeing the starting line.  I was 30 years older than these kids.  The only question I had was:  How many times would I be lapped?

I hadn't run a track race in more than 20 years, and had only run a handful back in the day.  I wasn't sure of the protocol.  When somebody was about to lap me, should I move out and let them take the inside lane?  Or should I just keep on trucking and let them pass me on the outside?  As the only old-timer--and faculty member--in the race, I certainly didn't want to interfere with the real runners.  God forbid I should trip somebody up!  I barely belonged on the track in the first place.

"Stay in your lane and let them pass you on the outside" somebody told me.  So that's what I did.

He lapped me four times, running away from the field.  I cheered him on--well, panted him on; grimaced him on--every time as he blew by.  "Go ahead, man!  You got it!"  Etc.  It was a strange kind of secret-sharer thing.  Or maybe that was just in my head.

He won in 14:0x.  After the last collegiate runner had finished in 17:3x or so, I still had a lap and a half.  Action on the track stopped while the old guy cruised on home.  I finished in 19:45.  Not even a PR, and a little painful, since I'd run the first lap at 6:00 pace.  It was hard to let the college kids go.

But here's the end of the story:  every time I'm out in the woods and I cross paths with Barnabas, or Kyle Lewis, or one of the other handful of Ole Miss runners who was in the race, they nod and smile at me.  They know exactly who I am now.  For better or worse, I'm on their map.  I'd like to think I've earned their respect, if only for having the kind of stupid-crazy willingness to take a risk for which old folk are always criticizing young folk. 

It was exciting as hell to stand on that starting line, toe to toe with the kids.  You only live once; then you're outta here.  I'm glad for the memory.   

Re: Elite siting

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:50 am
by Tchuck
My highlight will always be when Uta Pippig slapped me in butt when I passed her a few years ago in Bellin Run in Green Bay. She is a sweetheart! Of course she was injured!

Re: Elite siting

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:38 am
by BoilerTom90
My highlight was many years ago while running a 10K in South Bend. About midway through the race I passed Grete Waitz. I was running as hard as I could (still my 10K PR); she was just running easy.