Marathon Racing Shoes?

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Marathon Racing Shoes?

Post by Tinman » Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:32 pm

Andrew Duncan asked me about Marathon reason shoes. He is 6 foot tall and weighs 141 pounds. He is a heel striker. Does anyone have recommendations for him?
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Re: Marathon Racing Shoes?

Post by bflying » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:35 pm

I was a 6'0 144 pound heel striker with low arches. I liked the Mizuno Wave Alchemy. It was my favorite by far. I've since switched foot strike due to a non-running related foot surgery. I know it's a heavier shoe but I liked the extra protection when I got tired in the later miles.
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Re: Marathon Racing Shoes?

Post by London Rat Runner » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:28 am

The New Balance M1400 is a good marathon racing shoe - it's light (7.1oz) but not too much so for the marathon distance - it's popular with the Canadian marathon guys (Reid Coolsaet et al).  It not a really low drop shoe either.

Other than that you have the Adidas Adios 2 (7.7oz) which are ever present at the front end of the field and the Nike Zoom Streak 4 (7.1oz), though this has quite a curved last and tight instep so is definitely a try before you buy.
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Re: Marathon Racing Shoes?

Post by ap4305 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:14 pm

What are his normal training shoes?
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Re: Marathon Racing Shoes?

Post by Tinman » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:10 am

I just sent an email to ask him about his trainers. He told me that he raced a half marathon in the Asics hypergels but he is not sure they have enough cushioning for the full marathon. He has some unworn NB 1400s. Still , any suggestions are very much appreciated! Thank you friends!
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Re: Marathon Racing Shoes?

Post by qrkid » Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:19 am

Mizuno Wave Sayanora

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Re: Marathon Racing Shoes?

Post by efahl » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:56 pm

I did the Long Beach Half in NB 1400s about a week ago (1/320 in AG, 1:26:36) and thought they were a lot more shoe than I needed for the half distance, so I went and got a pair of NB 1600s the day after the race.  I weighed 146.2 the morning of the race, so pretty close to Andrew's weight.  I've done a couple of slow 6-7 milers in the 1600s to see how they feel and they aren't much different (other than weight) than the 1400s.

My scale shows the size 10D 1400 to weigh in at 7.35 oz each, the 1600s are 5.65 each, so according to Daniels' research this should net me about 3 seconds per mile (assuming all else remains the same).  http://runsmartproject.com/coaching/201 ... rformance/

I'm racing the Surf City 10 Mile on Sunday in the 1600s, I'll report back how they worked.

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Re: Marathon Racing Shoes?

Post by efahl » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:22 pm

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I'm racing the Surf City 10 Mile on Sunday in the 1600s, I'll report back how they worked.
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The NB 1600s are a perfect 10 mile shoe for me, they felt great (way better than my legs did only two weeks after the LB Half).  I started to feel some impact effects in the last mile, so they seem like they'd work for a half, but they are definitely NOT a full marathon shoe (at least for people with my gait and weight).  I'm thinking the 1400's extra cushion, which felt a bit much for me in the half, would be great for the full marathon distance.

(Oh, yeah, preliminary results: I won M55-59 by 9 minutes with a 1:04:05; 17th overall out of a 1349, 44 in my AG.)
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Re: Marathon Racing Shoes?

Post by Tinman » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:16 pm

Eric -

Congratulations on a age-group win! Super!!!


By the way, Andrew ran a half-marathon race as a workout yesterday. I scheduled a hard 10 mile run to bump his fitness for the marathon next month, so Andrew entered the local half-marathon and ran the first 10 miles of it at a hard effort and then jogged it in the finish. He ran 1:19 overall. His first 10 miles were 57:20, and he was a bit disappointed with that. However, as we know from years of working together that Andrew's performance level bumps up after a hard time-trial effort.  He wore the New Balance 1400s as a test (first time wearing them), and he thinks they should be fine for the marathon.
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Re: Marathon Racing Shoes?

Post by efahl » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:48 pm

I talked to the winner of M50 just before the start of the race (he did a super fast 55), he was wearing NB 1400s.  I wasn't thinking, so neglected to ask him if he'd ever run a full marathon in them.  Duh, I'll try to keep my mind on important stuff next time.  :)

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Re: Marathon Racing Shoes?

Post by bflying » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:01 pm

On the 1400 vs Sayanora regarding the 1400 - "They also feel great on longer, slower runs, and for heel strikers or those who tend to have form breakdowns late in a race the heel cushion is ample"
Read more at http://www.runblogger.com/2013/10/new-b ... idate.html.

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Re: Marathon Racing Shoes?

Post by Tinman » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:57 pm

bflying - Thank you. This is relevant because Andrew is a heel striker, and with fatigue setting in over the last 45 minutes of the race he's gonna need some cushion. It's just that you don't want to carry extra weight in a racing shoe unless it serves a good purpose. Andrew will likely run in the NB 1400s since his trial half-marathon workout went well in them.
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