Congratulations Runthe8!

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Re: Congratulations Runthe8!

Post by toughnessbucket » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:32 pm

I used to travel to triathlons and do speed workouts with Drew's father, Marc back in the 80's in Reston. Like father like son! Congrats

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Re: Congratulations Runthe8!

Post by kevinm » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:12 pm

runthe8,

Wow, and incredible!!! Congrats. Can you give us a link to the race.

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Re: Congratulations Runthe8!

Post by BURN7 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:32 pm

Flotrack filmed it and I think you need a flopro account to access the videos.  They do a lot of great things for the sport but having to be a paying member to see a race is kind of lame.  They only film the leader too so you can never see how the race plays out.  And the announcers like to yell and be funny...other than that its a great site!

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Re: Congratulations Runthe8!

Post by BoilerTom90 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:34 pm

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I used to travel to triathlons and do speed workouts with Drew's father, Marc back in the 80's in Reston. Like father like son! Congrats
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I never discounted the mom's genes in the equation, but sounds like Drew is doubly blessed.  None-the-less, he's the one out there running and making lots of jaws drop with his performances.  Great stuff and fun to read about! Contrats to all involved!!

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Re: Congratulations Runthe8!

Post by runthe8 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:37 pm

My husband Marc is definitely the parent with the real talent!  I remember a while back we were discussing the genetics of aerobic endurance here on the board.  I had read that it was completely inherited from the mother (maybe mitochondrial DNA?  not sure...) and Tinman confirmed that this was true.  I just find this so hard to believe because my aerobic endurance is my weak link, and Marc's VO2 max was measured in the 80something liters/minute back in the day.  In college, mine was measured at a below mediocre 53 liters/minute, though I question that result a little bit.  Drew seems to have tremendous endurance, like his dad, certainly not like me.  Marc used to call me an "anaerobic animal" because I can run intervals all day long, as long as you give me a stand around rest interval.  But send me out on a long run, well, it's not pretty.

Toughness, who are you?  I need to tell Marc you are on this board!

Yes, the only video I'm aware of is the flotrack one that you have to pay for.  The commentating was hilarious.  Poor Drew hardly got a mention till he went into the lead, despite moving up steadily throughout the race, and then the announcer guys were saying that the Canadian guy in second was going to beat him for sure, coming off the last turn.  But after he outkicked the guy (who really did look smoother and faster than Drew, and I have to admit I thought the same thing the announcers did) the guys were apologizing to Drew, "We're sorry, Andrew Hunter, we were wrong." That kind of thing.

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Re: Congratulations Runthe8!

Post by toughnessbucket » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:31 pm

Phil Young - I lived in Reston and trained with Marc (on bike rides) when he was training for triathlons before his plantar fascia was so bad he had to have surgery. He actually coached a running group "The Reston Runners" in interval workouts at South Lakes.

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Re: Congratulations Runthe8!

Post by Tinman » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:10 pm

Ah, but V-O2 max is mostly about the heart, which your son could have genetically inherited from your husband, Marc.  The individual muscle fibers are, where you come in, Joan. My guess is that you have very good local muscle endurance (in your muscles), given that you could run hard intervals all day long, but you lacked the cardiac capacity. Your son gets the best of both worlds - Marc's big heart and your muscle fiber endurance.
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Re: Congratulations Runthe8!

Post by Clell » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:27 pm

Impressive!  Congratulations.

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Re: Congratulations Runthe8!

Post by WHS » Thu May 01, 2014 9:11 am

Runthe8 - That is awesome.  Thank you for sharing what Tinman's concepts could look like in a HS setting.  Any chance, you could post the week before the week you posted? 

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Re: Congratulations Runthe8!

Post by runthe8 » Thu May 01, 2014 2:38 pm

WHS- Here is the week of 4/13-4/19

Sunday 4/13- 75 minute long run.  Hurdle mobility and a strength circuit with weights. (10.5 mi)
Monday 4/14- 51 minutes easy with 8 wickets, core, and agility drills afterwards. (7)
Tues 4/15- 65 minute combo workout.  6x1000 at 3:06(CV pace) with 200 jogs.  4x200 in 29, 28, 28, 27.  3 mile warm up and 10 minute cooldown.  weights and hurdle mobility. (10)
Wed 4/16- 51 minute recovery run, 7 strides (7)
Thurs 4/17- 50 min recovery run, 6 quick strides (7.25)
Fri- 4/18- 55 minutes total with warm up and cooldown, rhythm 200's.  12x200 at 34 sec with steady easy 200 recovery run in between.  Basically 3200 race pace reps. (8.25)
Sat- 4/19-35 minute run with 8 fast strides. (5.25) 
Weekly total: 55.25 miles

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Re: Congratulations Runthe8!

Post by WHS » Thu May 01, 2014 3:48 pm

Thank you for sharing...good stuff

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Re: Congratulations Runthe8!

Post by WHS » Thu May 01, 2014 3:51 pm

Runthe8 - How fast would you say the "fast" and "quick" strides are?  Thanks again for sharing!

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Re: Congratulations Runthe8!

Post by runthe8 » Thu May 01, 2014 6:02 pm

Drew says, quick and fast are pretty much the same- 400/800 effort, usually getting faster as he goes.  His regular strides are more like 2 mile pace.  He does them based on how he feels most of the time.  Sometimes we actually time his strides, usually trying to hit 3200 pace, with 15 second rests. This is done after some distance running and followed by another short run.  Tom gave us that little workout and Drew really likes doing those.

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Re: Congratulations Runthe8!

Post by WHS » Fri May 02, 2014 10:04 am

Thanks.  It will be fun to watch his continued development. 

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