Is this possible or just bs? Squatting 700 lbs and running 4:15 mile?

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Is this possible or just bs? Squatting 700 lbs and running 4:15 mile?

Post by ddtspir06 » Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:10 pm

Supposedly this guy name Alex Viada claims these results of squatting 700 lbs and running a 4:15 mile.

Link here: http://www.jtsstrength.com/articles/201 ... lex-viada/

and Here: http://www.atlargenutrition.com/blog/20 ... be-strong/

In regards to the 2nd link, he has an outline of how to strength train and still run fast. I copied and paste some of the workout below. Is this total bs or any truth to it?

Day 1: ME upper body/bench, light recovery run

Day 2: REST

Day 3: ME lower body, speed/interval work

Day 4: Short race pace run

Day 5: DE upper body, running form drills
Day 6: DE lower body

Day 7: Long slow distance run

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Re: Is this possible or just bs? Squatting 700 lbs and running 4:15 mile?

Post by Tinman » Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:31 pm

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Re: Is this possible or just bs? Squatting 700 lbs and running 4:15 mile?

Post by dkggpeters » Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:49 pm

To full squat 700 lbs you would have the build of a power lifter.  They have a hard time walking to the squat rack.  The claim is bogus.

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Re: Is this possible or just bs? Squatting 700 lbs and running 4:15 mile?

Post by Gabe1 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:07 am

I'm sure this guy can do both:
http://youtu.be/mzceykTiwjs

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Re: Is this possible or just bs? Squatting 700 lbs and running 4:15 mile?

Post by dkggpeters » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:25 am

[quote="Gabe1"]
I'm sure this guy can do both:
http://youtu.be/mzceykTiwjs
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I stand corrected.  Haha.

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Re: Is this possible or just bs? Squatting 700 lbs and running 4:15 mile?

Post by ddtspir06 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:41 pm

hmm well this leads me to another point. Is it possible to get strong/ripe and still run decently fast? I guess I could point to Ashton Eaton as the prime example of strong and still somewhat fast. Not sure what his range is after the 1500 though.

Or Allan Webb back in the day was known for doing good amount of weight training and still running very fast.

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Re: Is this possible or just bs? Squatting 700 lbs and running 4:15 mile?

Post by dkggpeters » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:12 pm

Define strong as what is considered strong for one person may be weak for another.  One thing you need to consider is someone whom can squat 700 lbs also has a body type that assists in helping out.  Don't get me wrong as they are strong no matter how you look at it but they may also have a mechanical advantage such as where tendons connect and if you have shorter legs vs long legs it is simple physics that one has leverage and one does not.

You can get strong but if you are looking at power lifter strong and run really fast times then the answer is no.  Putting in the running volume to support a 4:15 has negative consequences on big strength gains.  You can get stronger but you will be limited.  You can't have the best of both worlds.  Choose one or the other.

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Re: Is this possible or just bs? Squatting 700 lbs and running 4:15 mile?

Post by Franklin » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:16 pm

b.s.  4:15 is faster than the world record for a decathlon and is likely faster than any 230 lb guy in history.  And we're supposed to believe, with no evidence whatsoever, that a powerlifter who started running a few years ago did it?  He also has no proof for his 17:12 5k claim (his only official 5k was 26 minutes).  He's now saying that he ran a 4:15 mile this spring but "was much faster last year".  Oh, and he does it all with a detached hamstring and a dislocated hip.

btw, here is his marathon story:
- March ’11 Runs his best of 3 official marathons: 4:17
- June ’13 Claims “have done 4 marathons … in past 3 years”
- Jan ’14 Claims he’s done a 3:35 marathon and regularly runs 25 miles in 3:30 in training
- May ’14 Claims he’s only done one marathon, six years ago, in 4:00.

You never really know what he'll claim, but it's clear he's full of b.s.

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Re: Is this possible or just bs? Squatting 700 lbs and running 4:15 mile?

Post by Franklin » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:20 pm

Also note that the American raw squat record for Alex's weight is 650 lbs, but it might be true that guys squat more than records but don't enter competitions, I don't really know that world.

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Re: Is this possible or just bs? Squatting 700 lbs and running 4:15 mile?

Post by dkggpeters » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:59 pm

Maybe he did Crossfit because they think what they do is superior to any specific type of training.

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Re: Is this possible or just bs? Squatting 700 lbs and running 4:15 mile?

Post by Jim » Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:29 pm

In order to run a mile in 4:15 his Vo2Max, at 230lbs, would have to be about 100. So I say bogus too. This guy can break 7:00 maybe on a good day. Mind you he could no doubt break 11sec in the 100m but forget anything longer than that. he should stick to the discuss or hammer throw if he wants to be a track athlete.

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